Wednesday, February 2, 2011

Chapter 2 (pages 23-8) -- Control

How did the Nazi officer make sure no one would try to escape? How was this the same or different from what the Hungarian police did in Chapter 1?

8 comments:

  1. I do not think they had to do much to keep the Jews on check. Mostly all they did was carry a machine gun with them at all times. The thing that kept the Jews from escaping was fear. I mean here you are in some strange place you don't why your there, and the first thing you smell is burning flesh. Suddenly random people with guns start yelling out orders. You have two choices, you can listen to orders and follow them or you can defy and see if you live for another day. I think the choice in that situation is obvious. Mostly fear is what is keeping them from escaping because the guns the Nazi officers are carrying are most likely not just for show. The Hungarian police from chapter one are different. These officers do not carry machine guns around with them; the people follow them because they know that they are the police. I believe the main way that the Nazi officers make sure no one escaped way by carrying a gun and letting fear take over.
    - Nancy Joykutty

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  3. As Nancy said, all they really did was carry around guns and threaten them with them. The Nazi's never used the guns to shoot, but only to hit the jews with the butt if the gun. Or, like on the train car, the soldiers nailed them in so that they were certain no one would escape. The precautions that the Nazi soldiers were much more drastic than the Hungarian police. All the hungarian police did was make sure that the Jews were secluded from the rest of society by sectioning off a small area and placing guards and barbed wire around the area. This wasn't too harsh, at least the Jews weren't being hurt. They basically just made their own society and government inside of their confinement. They only real similarity that I can see is that both set of guards, the Nazi soldiers as well as the Hungarian police, made sure that no Jew escaped their hands. They were both very protective, and also near the end, the Hungarian Police began to get violent with the Jews and hit them with the butts of their guns. Still, no shooting had occured, just threats. The fear of the soldiers is what really kept the Jews from even trying to escape.



    -Yolanda-

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  4. I agree with Nancy J. and Yolanda. The Nazi officer used fear to make sure no one would attempt to escape. He threatened to shoot anyone on the spot if they happen to be caught disobeying his orders. The Nazi officer came off as much more intimidating than the Hungarian police. The new authority treated them differently than the familiar Hungarian authority. The Nazi officer controlled the people by threatening their lives, whereas the Hungarian policemen degraded them by shouting and calling them "lazy good-for-nothings"(Wiesel 19). The people possessed a greater fear of the Nazi officer as opposed to the Hungarian police. Under the Nazi officer they did not dare to complain or disobey because they were guaranteed instant death.

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  5. As Nancy and Yolanda have posted, the main reason behind the power of control was the guns. Just as Nancy already explained, of course someone would do what ever was needed when they have a gun againist their lives. The guns are the can take a their lives, and the people behind them can deterime their morality with those guns. Another reason why the Jews gave up their control to the Nazi and Hungarian officers and police was because there are confusion. They did not know where they were going, where there family members wer taken, or what laided ahead. So another propable explaination that the Nazi officers had control was because of emotions as well. It is reasonable to follow someone who seems to know everything that is going on in a time where disorientation is happening. A difference between the Nazi and the Hungarian police is that some of the jews are more acquainted with the Hungarian police because some are them are friends. Also the Hungarian police are more nicer towards the Jews. They treat them with more dignity, almost as if they are Hungarians as well.

    -Lilly

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  6. The Hungarian police seemed to treat the Jews in the ghetto pretty well. They did not cause any conflict with them and they treated them like any other citizens of Hungary. It seemed as though they did not want to put any fear or distrust in the Jews to keep them from running away and escaping their deaths. They could start to set in the fear once they got them out of their comfort zone and into a helpless situation. The Nazis had more ways of setting fear into the Jews with large, powerful weapons and harsh words. They no longer had to maintain their trust. The police could now control them with fear of taking away their families and lives. Being trapped inside train cars with no ventilation, food, water, or space brought fear and a sense of defeat to the Jews in the cars. Although they must have had the urge to escape, their fear of losing their lives was a lot greater.

    -Evelyn M.

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  7. '"There are eighty of you in this wagon", added the German officer. "If anyone is missing, you'll all be shot, like dogs...."' (Wiesel 22). In this chapter, The Nazi officer ensures that no one escapes the train by using threats. If one person is missing, they ALL must suffer! He tells them that if all of them are not accounted for, they will be executed. Everyone is responsible for the other passengers, family member or stranger. This instills fear with the Jews and not one them dare protest. The officer threatens the lives of the Jews. Who would not fold under this pressure? The Nazis also carry weapons that give them an intimidating appearance. The Hungarian police in the ghettos use a different approach. They make the Jews submit to their authority by making them feel bad about themself. They call them derogatory names such as "lazy swine" (Wiesel 17). Naturally, this discourages the Jews and they lose the courage to stand up for themselves. Unlike the Nazis, the Hungarians did not threaten to take their lives. In both instances, the Jews are belittled and made to be submissive to the Hungarian and Nazi authority. Even though they use two techniques, both compel the Jews to do as instructed.

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